Thursday, April 16, 2009

Rough Night

The surgery went well. The doctor said I lost a considerable amount of blood. I'm definitely on the mend. . . physically. Emotionally speaking, I have slowly been coming to grips with everything. . . until tonight.

SO many questions. I'm trying so hard to find the answers. I've been awake most of the night crying, researching scriptures, Mormon Doctrine, LDS.org articles from General Authorities and Ensigns of the past, trying to find some peace. Will I ever meet my baby? Will he be resurrected?

This article by Val D. Greenwood was in response to the question - Can we put the names of our miscarried or stillborn children on our family group records? Will these children belong to us in the hereafter?, (“I Have a Question,” Ensign, Sept. 1987, 27–28) The article, at first, sounded like it would have exactly the information I was looking for, but upon close inspection of it, I found very little comfort:

"A miscarriage is delivery of a dead fetus, before it is viable—that is, before it could have lived on its own outside the mother’s womb. A stillbirth is delivery of the dead fetus that has developed to the point where it would normally have been viable, but for some reason is born dead. The line between a miscarriage and a stillbirth is not clear cut, and sometimes there is a question as to whether the fetus was viable."

". . . The question of whether stillborn children will be resurrected and belong to their parents in the hereafter is really the crux of the matter. This question is, as yet, impossible to answer with certainty. Elder Joseph Fielding Smith wrote that “there is no information given by revelation in regard to the status of stillborn children. However, I will express my personal opinion that we should have hope that these little ones will receive a resurrection and then belong to us.” (Doctrines of Salvation, 2:280.) He said nothing about miscarried children."

(This is the part that made me bawl)
". . . It is not clear exactly at what point of development that “certain stage” of quickening—when the spirit makes eternal claim to the body—occurs. Even though quickening occurs before birth, we still do not know definitely when a living soul comes into existence. In fact, some Church leaders have suggested that a living soul does not exist until three essential elements—the body, the spirit, and the breath of life—are all present."


So does that mean that my baby didn't have a "living soul"? I thought that life began when the heart starts beating. Several weeks ago, I saw it's heart beat, I saw it move. I thought that even though very small, whether viable or not, this baby is a child of God and as such will continue to live in His presence.

This quote from Joseph Smith provided some comfort - but does it apply to miscarraiges?:
The Lord takes many away, even in infancy, that they may escape the envy of man, and the sorrows and evils of this present world; they were too pure, too lovely, to live on earth; therefore, if rightly considered, instead of mourning we have reason to rejoice as they are delivered from evil, and we shall soon have them again.”
Joseph Smith Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith (1976), 196–97.

I felt at first that naturally we'll be reunited with our baby one day. Even though I'm shaken up at the moment, I do feel that my first impressions were correct. I probably shouldn't question the comforting thoughts that came in the ultrasound room on Monday.

At first, I hesitated to open up about this, but I'm so glad I did. I have been boisted up by your support and your prayers. I am sad but also comforted to know so many of you have been through similar experiences and I appreciate your sharing it with me. And I need your help: if you have any articles, or information that can shed any light on any of this, please share.

9 comments:

Karley said...

Rochelle, I am no expert by any means, but I think that the answer to your question is whatever brings you the most comfort and peace. My mom had two miscarraiges before my youngest brother and I like to think that that was Kelton trying to come to earth (which makes a lot of sense if you know Kelton, he has to do it right). It is also comforting to know that I might have celestial brothers or sisters that I will have the opportunity to know, and my mom and dad will have the opportunity to raise. I guess, just keep praying if an idea gives you an added amount of light, than that is probably your answer. Thanks for all your help this past month. We love you.

Cristi said...

I don't have any articles or information. But I do have the comfort of the Spirit, which is what has gotten me through the last four and a half years of infertility, miscarriages, etc. I really don't have a solid answer, but I do feel peace and I KNOW that Heavenly Father loves me and He loves YOU. And He wants you to be comforted and to be happy. So just continue to stay close to the Spirit, and you will know in your heart what is right for your family and your situation. Everything will work out in the next life. Of this I have no doubt.

This may not bring you much comfort right now. But give it time, Rochelle. There is a grieving and healing process that you must go through. And you are a strong woman. You have a huge support team.

When this happened to Jeff and I, it brought us so much closer together. Lean on Alfonso, lean on your boys, but most importantly, lean on the Lord and His Spirit.

I love you.

The Gines Family said...

we love you

Aloha_Misty said...

Rochelle, Thank you for sharing these with your internet friends...your thoughts, feelings and pains touch my heart. It is people like you who make me love blogging so much. I feel like I have been blessed with so many friends that I now carry a part of with me because of the internet...Keeping in touch with them and knowing what is happening in their lives brings me so much joy. I am sorry that you have to struggle with these difficult problems right now. I believe that the spirit heals our hearts and that feeling you experienced in the ultrasound room was true. I wish sometimes we had perfect understanding of Heavenly Father's plan. I know when my sis died a few years ago I really struggled with questions of faith and understanding...the only answer I came up with is that I know my Heavenly Father would take care of me. I don't know why we go though certain trials but I know that he will bear us up in our afflictions. I hope when you find your answers you will share! I will still praying for you!

Calerich said...

Rochelle,
I have some thoughts, but first I should tell you what I went through.
I too went thru a divorce and remarriage. My husband and I struggled for years with infertillity before we were blessed with our son. We always knew we wanted at least two and fearing it would take us several more years to be blessed with another we decided not to do anything to prevent another child and to be blessed with it when the time was right. Last fall I ended up in the ER with horrible pain. I found out I was expecting again, we were overjoyed, then the bad news, they thought it was a tubal pregnancy. They wanted to make certain it was tubal and not a normal early pregnancy and cyst before they did anything, so for a week I went in for blood tests to find out if this was a viable baby. I hoped that a miracle would happen and things would be fine. Sadly I found out that it was indead a tubal pregnancy and they had to terminate the pregnancy. It was horrible. I killed my baby. I know that it would not have lived, there was no other option, and that had I continued with the pregnancy I could have died too, still, I let them kill my baby.
I was not ready for another baby, at least that is what I thought. We started preventing pregnancy, 3 months later I take a pregnancy test and much to my amazement it was positive. I was so happy, but also scared and still healing from my last experience. We went to the doctor immediately because I was spotting and worried it was the same thing happening again. After an ultrasound I found out the baby was ok and actually in the uterus. To make a long story short. I am now 21 weeks, the entire pregnancy has been full of complications, the doctor has told me numerous times how he was certain I was going to miscarriage. Every week when I got an ultrasound I was worried there would be no heartbeat or maybe no baby found. It has been terrifying. I am now for the most part past the miscarriage worry, and now to the preterm labor worry. I have thought alot about my last baby that I lost and this pregnancy. My thoughts & findings are this.
I also could not find any church doctorine that answered my questions or made me feel any better. However, when I was feeling so low and lost, I was doing alot of praying and searching for answers, I just kept having this feeling of peace. That things were in the Lords hand and that in the end no matter what happened it would be ok. Just because it is how I am, I took the peace the Lord blessed me with, but still searched. I wanted to know what about my baby.
In the midst of that searching was when we found out that I was pregnant again. I don't know for certain but I kind of got the feeling my baby was here again, it was being given another chance for a body and I was given another chance to carry this baby and give him/her life. This pregnancy has not been easy and I said and I have constantly worried about miscarriage, but I feel this baby has held in there because it is as determined to be here as I am to get it here.
I just feel that these spirits once assigned to us, will come to us. If they are lost before they can be given to us for eternity they will come again. They are ours and will always be ours one way or another.
I know that was quite the ramble and I hope it made sense to you.
I hope you know that I am very sorry for the pain you are feeling now and the trial you are going through. I have you and your family in my prayers, and I will pray that you find the answers your are searching for and that you can find peace in the midst of the heartache.

Sarah said...

Sigh.....I was so looking forward to having babies the same age. Don't worry Rochelle, I know this sounds cliche, but things always seem to work out in the end. I know how much you wanted this baby, and I'm so sorry. Don't worry too much about what has happened to it's spirit. God watches over us all. And who's to say that this baby girl or boy won't still make it down to you one day!!! That's my feelings, don't give up your hope or that infamous Rochelle Spark. I love you.

Heather said...

Rochelle, I know that we only see each other on the occasional passing. However, I wanted you to know just how much you mean to me. You are truely the most amazing women I have ever met. I want you to know that on the days I wish "Lord, stop picking on me. I'm done being strong." that you are who I think of. You have been through so much and yet here you are, reading, studying, praying, & relying on the very spirt that tries you. Thank you. You must be have something very special awaiting you. Only those special sprits get tried this way. I love you. I pray that you and Alfonzo will find the peace you seek.

Rochelle said...

You guys are the best. THank you so much!

Firegirl14 said...

I am soo sorry to hear about your miscarriage. I cannot express how sad I am to hear that this happened to you. You are an amazing woman! I have looked up to you for so many years. And I continue to do so.

I have lost two babies in the last 2 years. I know the pain and the emptiness that you feel. My bishop told us that there are reasons that Heavenly Father takes our babies. It is not a punishment to us (which I have felt for years it was) but, there maybe was something wrong with the baby that Heavenly Father did not want our children to have to live with. It does not take the pain away, but it helps to know that Heavenly Father keeps an eye on us and our children. I am comforted by the thought that my children are in Heaven with my grandparents. They are safe. I know that they are watching over me and praying for me. I pray that some day, I will be able to tell them how much I love them.

Someone told me to plant a flower in my yard for the baby. Watch over it, water it, and watch it grow. This helped me a lot. On the day you were supposed to deliver, tie a note to your baby to a balloon and send it to heaven. Tell your baby how you feel. These are ideas that might help you.

I hope some of my words will have helped you and not upset you. I love you and miss you! If you need anything, please don't hesitate. I have some books on miscarriage if you would like to read them. Let me know. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.